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Jolted out of my slumber. Sitting straight up I look around. I start to panic. There is a man there watching me sleep. I yell at him and try to make myself feel big. I clumsily clamor for the knife I know I have hidden under my mattress somewhere. Somewhere… Where is it? I feel like I’m going to hyperventilate. What is he doing in my room? Why is he just sitting there? Why doesn’t he say anything? Questions…
I start to wake up more. I slow my breathing. I ground myself. I concentrate on the sound of my heartbeat that is pounding in my chest. It is so loud, I wonder if he can hear it. I take a deep breath. I stand up. I walk past the man, watching him as I walk past. He doesn’t watch me go. I ritualistically flip on the light as I leave the room and head for the bathroom. I come back and he is gone. I sit on my bed, clutching my knees to my chest. Rocking myself calm. Blurry eyes, moistened from tears of fear. Rocking.
“It was just a night terror. It wasn’t real.” I repeat to myself over and over. I climb back into my covers and eventually calm myself enough to sleep.
My whole life, I woke in the middle of the night and saw things as clear as awake that were not there. It is common for children to be scared of the “boogeyman” that hides in the closet or under the bed so it was not uncommon that I too jumped over my bed to avoid what was under it, that my closet doors had to be closed for me to fall asleep or that I slept with the blankets over my head so that I couldn’t see them—the monsters. The difference was that I actually saw them—my imaginary fears looked as real as my parents. But to everyone else, I was a normal child with normal fears.
As an adult, for a couple years I even became used to seeing “people” in my room—sort-of. I would wake with the normal jolt of panic, watch the person for a minute and then lazily fall back asleep. I slept with a knife and a flashlight, sometimes under the mattress, sometimes under my pillow and sometimes clutched in my hand because of these almost nightly encounters and my fear that someday it would be a real person that I would mistake for a “night terror”.
Had I ever been taken to a psychiatrist, I would have been labeled borderline schizophrenic, maybe hospitalized and definitely drugged. I never was taken to a doctor for it and as I had grown up with this condition I called “night terrors” I had grown somewhat accustomed to it and had learned to hide this “condition” from family, friends and lovers.
These “night terrors” persisted through grad school, through clinical herbalism school, through natural foods culinary school and into the beginning of holistic nutrition school. They were just a part of who I was—I didn’t consider them a health concern. Through all of my training and education I adopted a healthier lifestyle, was physically active and ate healthier. I found it fun and challenging to cook gluten free and vegan after culinary school, so I only actively consumed gluten when eating out. Even though my “night terrors” persisted, they were shorter in duration and what I saw would dissolve usually within a minute or so of shining my flashlight on it. I didn’t even have them every night anymore.
As part of the nutrition program I was in, I succumbed to doing a gluten elimination diet. I thought nothing of it, that it would have no effect, because I had no digestion problems and I consumed very little gluten. After a couple months of the elimination diet, I thought nothing had really changed. I very strongly remember that it was my favorite month of the year… February (in 2007) meant it was Stout Month at the Mountain Sun (a local brewery in Boulder). And so, happy that I had “passed” my elimination diet, I ordered a chocolate cherry stout and a grilled cheese, avocado and tomato sandwich on rye bread. I had no idea that, that meal would be my last drink of a good stout beer or that I would never taste rye again.
That night I had night terror after night terror after night terror. They persisted all night and even included tactile sensations. I’ve never been so scared in my life and have never had such a horrific experience as that night—too horrific of a memory for me to even share here.
It was gluten. Night terrors (aka schizophrenic hallucinations) were my symptom, not diarrhea, constipation, stomach cramps or bloating. For me, it was purely neurological. Well, that and later I discovered that I had developed Hashimoto’s thyroid antibodies (which are a result of your immune system being up-regulated and your system being inflamed, almost always as a result of the body attacking the thyroid, mistaking it for gluten). I also now notice brain fog when I experience gluten cross-contamination. Although recognizing gluten intolerance as the cause of my neurological symptoms was a strange realization, it was a happy one. Finally, I would have ongoing peaceful sleep lasting the entire night. Finally my adrenals would be given a break.
I never tested for celiac disease; I was unwilling to add gluten back into my diet for an extensive amount of time to test when the tests are so prone to false-negatives. Knowing whether I have celiac disease or not is not important to me. I am gluten intolerant. That’s all I need to know. I’ve been gluten intolerant my entire life…not schizophrenic and not able to see ghosts. I can’t have any amount of gluten, none. I was lucky because I had already learned to cook gluten free through culinary school and can order my own blood tests to confirm nutrient levels, antibody levels and such. Now, my goal is to spread that support to those that don’t have those options.
As a Nutrition Therapist and Clinical Herbalist, I test almost every client for celiac disease and non-celiac gluten intolerance (and often for other food intolerances too). I don’t have the blindfolds on that many in the medical profession do that pigeon hole their patients into an expectation of specific symptoms for a specific condition or that non-celiac gluten intolerance isn’t as dangerous as celiac disease. Through my personal experiences and those of my clients, I help educate people that celiac disease is just another symptom of gluten intolerance and that not having celiac disease is not a free pass to eat gluten if you are symptomatic. Whether ingesting gluten causes the body to attack the digestive system (as in celiac disease), the joints (as in autoimmune arthritis), the thyroid (as in Hashimoto’s and in Grave’s), the brain (as in autoimmune Alzheimer’s) or whether gluten is creating an inflammatory state with an upregulated immune system that taxes the adrenals and risks the development of an autoimmune disease or distracts the body from killing mutated cells in the body (as in cancer), causes anemia, osteoporosis or one of the other 200 or so different symptoms associated with BOTH celiac disease and non-celiac gluten intolerance, it doesn’t matter. Celiac disease is a symptom of gluten intolerance and it is awful, but people with non-celiac gluten intolerance can have to be just as gluten vigilant. We are all in this together.
As a healing foods chef, I only teach gluten free cooking classes (and usually grain free classes), because whether someone is gluten intolerant or not, we can all thrive more if we eat less grains and more nutrient-dense non-processed foods. The reason gluten intolerance is so prevalent is because gluten is not digestible, but is in everything and in this modern age when leaky gut syndrome is so prevalent, it is no surprise that gluten intolerance is so widespread. Those that are not gluten intolerant would do well to not “push their luck” and be mindful of their consumption of grains.
When I have any amount of cross-contamination, my sleep becomes disrupted, I have a very hard time falling asleep and the night terrors return. The intensity of the night terror corresponds with the level of cross-contamination I receive. Three nights ago I had a “night terror,” I saw a man watching me from the bathroom in my room. I sat up and watched him and as I watched him, strangely calmly, I thought through about what I had eaten that day, wracking my mind for where the cross-contamination in my day could have come from. He backed away. I went back to sleep. The next morning, I was in the bathroom and noticed that the screen was completely off the window. Possibly, a few nights ago, my fear came true and someone broke into my house but I thought it was only a night terror. I’ll never know. Vigilance.

Wow Katie, extremly well written article. I love the suspense and the mystery at the beginning. I am gluten intolerant too. It affects me differently, I get a rash or itchy. I’m not always sure if it is that I ate too much fruit to get too much sugar or if is the gluten I got from some food or both. I am pretty careful with the amount of fruit I eat, and Idon’t really like wine that much anyway
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Joyce! I love hearing what everyone’s symptoms are because they can be anything. I also have an issue with fruit. Lately I’ve been wondering if I’ve developed fructose malabsorption or if I have parasites, but haven’t tested myself for either yet. If I have a small amount of fruit I’ll get a rash but with a larger amount or with corn I sometimes get cramping. I try to avoid fruit anyway to avoid the blood sugar spikes so I’m not too concerned with the outcome of the test, but need to know so I can deal with the parasites if that’s the problem. Though, unlike you, I do occasionally like a glass of wine! I’m glad that all I’ve my food intolerance reactions are different so at least I can differentiate when its gluten cross-contamination and when it is some other ingredient. It must be frustrating to not know whether you are reacting to gluten or fruit. Thanks again for sharing your symptoms–much appreciated.
Good grief Katie! I can’t even imagine a life of night terrors. No wonder you are so careful and committed to not eating gluten. This is a very good article on the problem and it’s not something I will forget if I hear of anyone having night terrors. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hi Lynn. Yes, I am so glad to know what my night terrors were caused by. Unfortunately, the night terrors are only an external manifestation of the inflammation that is happening inside. Regardless of the intensity of the external symptoms, if anyone is symptomatic, no matter how minor, they need to be careful and committed to not eating gluten. The real health concern is the internal effects from gluten, even more so than the external symptoms. Often we don’t strongly notice the autoimmune effects with the body attacking itself, thinking its fighting gluten. I know that I’m not very aware of my immune system being upregulated and attacking/destroying my thyroid every time I get just a little cross-contamination. And that attack can last up to 5 months!!!! So scary. There are a lot of other scary internal effects that may be happening that elicit no obvious external symptoms such as the body not fighting mutated cells (e.g. cancer) because it’s too busy fighting gluten; osteoporosis, anemia and more. I wish that night terrors were it, but they are only the tip of the iceberg. But I’m luckier than some that have no obvious external manifestations of the intolerance. At least I know when I’ve received gluten cross-contamination and my body is under attack, my immune system is up-regluated and I am inflamed. Most gluten intolerance is asymptomatic!
Yes, I just stopped eating gluten (on a recommendation from Angela Minelli – Thank you Angela! – and I am definitely the better for it. It’s amazing how may people are sensitive to what passes for wheat in this age of industrial farming.
So true. How has it improved your life Caitriona?
I, like you have suffered from Adult Night Terrors for 10 years. Ghosts, spiders, people, you name it, I ran from it. I’ve also woken up at the front door, about to head out, and then waking up wondering why am I standing here?
6 doctors later, G.P, sleep specialist, psychologist, psychiatrist, acupuncturist, and finally neurologist….still nothing.
After 2 MRI’s looking for night seizures and epilepsy, I was at my wits end! I decided to just live with them.
3 weeks ago, I decided to go wheat free. I suffer horribly from several seasonal allergies, eggs and seafood allergies and avoid dairy. I figured perhaps it might help. I feel terrific! I haven’t had any night terrors during the wheat free weeks, and overall I feel great!
I came across your posting and was interested to see that others have suffered like I have.
I’m going to continue to go wheat free, and see how my other allergies improve, but also know to see that perhaps I may finally have control over my night terrors.
I applaud you for talking about this horrible affliction, that many dismiss as being crazy!
I may finally have a peaceful night sleep.
Thanks again
Oh your posting just fills me with delight! Thanks so much for sharing and congratulations!!!! I am so very, very pleased for you. How frustrating that you have been to so many specialists and none of them suggested to you to be tested for gluten intolerance!
The first time I opened up about my “night terrors” was when I presented a workshop on new research about gluten at the Public Health in the Rockies conference last year and I expected to not get the best reception with including my personal story in a professional health conference. Instead it resulted in an abundance of folks feeling comfortable to tell me their uncomfortable gluten story after my presentation and two of them had night terrors like us but had not realized the connection. Again last weekend when I told my story during a presentation, I woman came up during a break and told me that she used to have night terrors too, so bad that she had her husband board up the windows because she didn’t want to mistake the night terrors for real and since going off gluten she hadn’t had them and didn’t even realize the connection! At this point, with the same neurological symptoms showing up over and over again with myself, clients and people I meet, I realize that everyone who has any type of psychological symptom or sleep issue should be tested for gluten–no ifs, ands or buts about it. Now if we could only get the specialists to see our reasoning!
Thanks again for sharing and please keep me updated on how things go for you with your wheat-free diet!
Thanks for sharing your gluten experiences with sleeping. Growing up I constantly slept walked, into my early 20s I begin having night terrors, which progressed back to sleep walking and even worse sleep eating. I also jerked in my sleep. I was very fatigued and miserable. Some new symptoms encouraged me to go to the doctor whom suggested trying a gluten and dairy free diet. It was really hard, but then I felt great. Sleeping through the night and no more neurological issues. I then developed gastro issues (even on gluten free) so I gave up other things like diary and fructose and the new cramps went away. Thinking that maybe I was wrong the first time I went back on a gluten diet (it was really hard staying away from all three). Well guess what- waking up at night started again, migraines, night sweats, and uncontrollable hunger started up again. So I am convinced gluten played a role.
Kim, congratulations on discovering the cause of all of your symptoms! And congratulations on taking your health into your own hands.It is amazing how many folks I meet that have neurological symptoms from gluten but especially sleep symptoms. Thanks for sharing your story!
So true. I think all this talk about being a true celiac is rlaely silly. It’s not like the celiac tests are foolproof. Nor is much known about non-celiac gluten sensitivity. Plus, if an intestinal biopsy does not show damage, does this mean the person isn’t having an autoimmune response caused by gluten?! Not necessarily. Although I’ve never been tested for celiac (and won’t be, since the test would necessitate a gluten challenge), I was diagnosed with alopecia areata in my teens and autoimmune thyroid disease in the last few months. I suspect that gluten was a contributor to both autoimmune conditions but of course I have no proof. Does it rlaely matter that I don’t have the official piece of paper telling me that I have celiac disease? I can’t figure out why it would. I realize I might not get the validation of mainstream celiac organizations or official celiacs, but as long as I’m on the road to recovery, I don’t care. Cheers to you for discovering what works best for you!
Thanks so much for sharing Megumi! I’ve been chastised by some celiacs and some in the medical community for not testing myself for celiac disease and choosing to go off gluten without testing! Just like you, I refuse to test for celiac disease because I refuse to do a gluten challenge. For the sake of a celiac diagnosis, I refuse to do the gluten challenge and purposefully upregulate my immune system, cause inflammation and potentially other damage when, like you said, there are so many false negatives and who cares? I know I can’t consume gluten. I know I am gluten intolerant so the form of gluten intolerance doesn’t matter as the solution is the same… Don’t eat gluten ever–at all!
I really appreciate that you have commented–it is so nice to know others are equally fed up with this us vs them: celiac vs non-celiac gluten intolerant. We really should be working together. I also get so frustrated at restaurants when I am confirming all details to make sure there will be no cross-contamination and the waiter says… “Oh because you are celiac not just sensitive.” I used to try to educate the waiter about how it doesn’t matter, both need to be equally careful, but sadly have given up on that fight these days and usually just say “yes.”
Have you read the book, “Why do I still have thyroid symptoms?” by Dr. Datis Kharrazian? He goes through all of the research indicating that almost always gluten is connected to autoimmune thyroid cases and that almost all thyroid problems are autoimmune. I don’t have Hashimoto’s, but I do have antibodies to my own thyroid, which means if I were to go back on gluten, most likely my body would start the attack on my thyroid again as the thyroid is strangely a very similar protein to gluten and easily mistaken for it.
Thanks again for commenting and sharing Megumi and cheers to you too for being on the road to recovery!
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Is hypothyroid related to gluten ? Are negative “schizophrenia” symptoms, as opposed to positive symptoms, also related to gluten? Yang or positive symptoms are those like hallucinations. Yin or negative symptoms would very flat affect.
David, Actually, I have yet to have a hypothyroid client (let alone a Hashimotos client) that doesn’t also have gluten intolerance. Many studies have found gluten intolerance and Hashimotos are connected (http://www.eje-online.org/content/130/2/137.abstract, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15244201, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12919165, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11768252, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614). This research shows the connection to be so common and strong that I believe that all patients that have antibodies to their own thyroid should be gluten free and everyone that is gluten intolerant would do well to test for thyroid antibodies. The reason that Hashimotos and gluten intolerance are connected is silly really! Gliadin (part of gluten) is molecularly very similar to the thyroid. This means that when someone who is gluten intolerant (thereby producing antibodies to gluten) consumes gluten (or gets cross-contamination), their immune system becomes upregulated and starts attacking not only gluten, but also those things the body confuses as gluten which for some people includes their thyroid. What’s really scary is that studies have shown that this attack on the thyroid can last for up to 6 months (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614) and someone who is gluten intolerant activates antibodies from consuming 1 gluten containing bite or significantly less (varies by person ) . This is what frustrates me so much in my practice…. Someone who “only cheats every once in a while with a bite here or there of a cookie or pizza” has just reactivated an immune attack on not only gluten but potentially body tissues as well (the digestive system with Celiacs, joints with rheumatoid arthritis and the thyroid with Hashimotos). Dr. Kenneth Fine’s research indicates that 80% of Americans are likely to have or develop gluten intolerance (https://www.enterolab.com/StaticPages/EarlyDiagnosis.aspx) and other research indicates that 90% of hypothyroid cases are autoimmune (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0950351X88800557). This, I believe, is strong enough evidence to indicate that nobody with hypothyroidism should consume gluten and is why (to the sometimes extreme frustration of my clients), I suggest they eliminate gluten from their diet if hypothyroid (and without question if Hashimotos).
In regards to the type of schizophrenia, I am unsure how the different symptoms of schizophrenia are affected by gluten. One thing to note is that I am not saying gluten causes schizophrenia but in some cases, gluten is the cause of the neurological symptom, but definitely not in all cases. Here is a decent review of some of the research surrounding the connection between gluten intolerance and schizophrenia: http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/glutenintolerance/a/Gluten-And-Schizophrenia.htm
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Thank you Katie for sharing your personal story! I was fascinated to read about the link between gluten and psychological/neurological problems. Have you found any scientific/medical writings about the correlation between gluten and night terrors (or other psychological challenges)? I’d love to read more about this…
Thanks Andrea! Research is finding that more people with gluten intolerance represent with neurological symptoms than with digestive symptoms! I believe that anyone with sleep issues, any psychological symptoms, thyroid issues and of course digestive symptoms need to be tested for celiac disease and also non-celiac gluten intolerance (if the celiac panel is negative, though false negatives are common).
As far as scientific, peer reviewed studies connecting gluten to psychological problems there are so, so many that there is no way I could even begin to share them. If you do a search in pubmed, you will see there is plenty for you to read. Here are a few:
* Scroll down to the bottom of this article for several studies on the connection between schizophrenia and gluten intolerance: http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/glutenintolerance/a/Gluten-And-Schizophrenia.htm
* A recent study on psychosis and gluten: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=1105557
* Psychology Today published an article “Is Gluten Making You Depressed” that reviews several studies: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-breakthrough-depression-solution/201105/is-gluten-making-you-depressed
Several studies are cited here connecting gluten to depression: http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/symptomsofceliacdisease/a/Gluten-And-Depression.htm
Oh dear… I could go on and on and on, but this can get you started with some readings.
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Hi Katie, My name is Adam, I know what it is to live with night terrors. Here’s a new avenue you can try, it has cured my night terrors as long as I keep it in my diet. Its hard to believe it but it help me amazingly A candy bar, Hershey’s special dark chocolate. Which I stumble across it in aiding me Thank God! I know my night terrors differs from yours. This was my night terrors with in 30 minutes to an hour after falling asleep and I could scent it in my sleep coming on, my mind and body would wake me in a panic alert with an awful feeling as I was loosing my life slipping away from my body and then my heart would race to 200mpr! Many times I felt I wouldn’t pull through that’s how scary it was for me. All I can is try it, if it helps Thank God. And if not at least you try. My story is very true Katie, some may chastise me that a candy bar has stop my night terrors but I will tell you this their something special about Hershey’s dark chocolate in the ingredients or compounds. Which aided me. No longer live with night terrors anymore! I plan on making a video on youtube hoping to help others with the same type of night terrors I had at one time. Can you believe it Hershey special dark. Chocolate wow! If it helps others , they will have to do medical study on this!!!!! God bless Katie.
Wow Adam! I’ve never heard of Hersheys helping with night terrors–very interesting. I’m curious is it all chocolate or just Hershey’s dark chocolate that works for you? My initial thought is that it is the magnesium that is so high in dark chocolate that is causing your muscles to relax, your heart beat to slow down and restfulness to ensue. I’m glad that you also found something that works for your night terrors. It sure is nice to have restful sleep! Thanks for sharing what works for you!
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Hi Katie, it Hershey’s special dark chocolate. Nice that you read my posting. I have been free of night terrors for 4yrs now! All I can tell you is for some reason the ingredients suppresses anxiety, and panic attacks. Or the body receptacles being trigger. I urge all to try it who suffer from anxiety, and panic attacks. And it must be a daily regiment. Beats living on nasty harmful meds! In the long run causing more problems. I don’t know if other type of dark chocolate works? Reason is why would I need to if I already found my cure. Right!, with Hershey’s special dark chocolate. I”m already being ridicule on another web site, by others saying its placebo effect! I lit in to them, asking them to try it! But sad to say some people would rather live on meds for life!!!!!! and be ill. I guess the meds have gotten the best of them. They aren’t thinking correctly. I need other testimonials that this works for others than just myself. Hope things get better for you Katie. Sign Adam.
Thanks Adam for the update. I hear you about not wanting to try other chocolate bars or just magnesium to see if they have the same effect for you… I’m the same way. I won’t try your chocolate solution, because I know mine are caused by gluten (and I avoid sugars and am not a fan of the quality or sourcing of Hershey’s chocolate) and will never consume gluten again so that I can stay night terror free. What matters, is that we have found a solution and who cares what others think–we have to do what works! All that matters is that we have peaceful sleep now! Congrats on finding your solution!
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Thanks so much for that great post Katie.
The thought of the real person in your room was pretty scary. I sleep like a baby but I have had memory problems for a few years that got so bad that I had to leave my old job because I was making so many mistakes. I was tested for and treated for sleep apnea which has made a big difference but you have me wondering if gluten could be a contributing factor.
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It wouldn’t hurt to find out. I think anyone with neurological symptoms should uncover whether they have an issue with gluten as it is so common. I would suggest doing a blood test for celiac disease and if that is negative, doing a test for non-celiac gluten intolerance and if that is negative, to do an elimination diet or just go straight to an elimination diet if you don’t need the testing reassurance.
Other avenues you might look into beyond gluten intolerance is 1) memory issues and brain fog are very common symptoms with intestinal candida overgrowth (I suggest the Microbial Ecology test through Metametrix lab for this) 2) Other food intolerances besides gluten (I prefer the ALCAT 200 food panel test for this). 3)neurotransmitter imbalance (several labs offer testing for this and I’m not sure yet which one I prefer). Common symptoms for acetyl choline (a neurotransmitter that can be supported naturally through diet and supplements) deficiency are:
• visual memory (shapes & images) is decreased
• verbal memory is decreased
• occurrences of memory lapses
• creativity decreased
• comprehension diminished
• difficulty calculating numbers
• difficulty recognizing objects & faces
• opinion about yourself has changed
• excessive urination
• experiencing slower mental response
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Hi Lyn, sorry I didn’t realize when I responded that you aren’t in the US and all of the labs I just listed are US labs! That said, I’m sure there are labs in Australia that would work or you could wait until you make your move to the states! I’d be glad to look into lab testing in Australia to see if there are comparable tests to what I suggested. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Thank you for your story! I’ve found that night terrors occurs if histamine levels are high. In your case the inflammation/histamine was caused by gluten and thus the night terrors. I’m glad you are better now!
I am histamine intolerant and my eyes widened when I read what you ordered when you celebrated the fact that you “passed” your elimination diet: chocolate cherry stout and a grilled cheese, avocado and tomato sandwich on rye bread! The night of absolute horror that followed after your celebration came to me as NO surprise. You see EVERYTHING you ordered was either very high in dietary histamine or they are known to be histamine liberators (in other words, causing your body to respond by releasing histamine). I think your histamine levels skyrocketed due to these foods and you had that very unpleasant night. I believe you could have night terrors again if you over consume foods high in dietary histamine even though you may be gluten free, it all just depends on your bodies ability to break down the histamine.
Thanks so much for sharing this information bongaan! I have never heard of histamine intolerance and am excited to learn more! I found this information on the histamine restricted diet: http://www.urticaria.thunderworksinc.com/pages/lowhistamine.htm Is this in line with what you are explaining to me?
I do question whether that is my issue, because I only have night terrors now occasionally when I’ve eaten out and likely received some cross-contamination or if I’ve eaten anything from bulk foods (which again I assume is from gluten cross-contamination). Also, looking through the foods listed on that website, I regularly eat several of them with no night terrors, such as the spices they list, eggplant, tomatoes, spinach, sauerkraut (I am making some right now actually, just waiting for it to finish fermenting and have some done fermenting in the fridge), all the fruits listed, and fish. I suppose I could do an elimination diet with those foods and then add them back in and see if I get a histamine-induced night terror. Fascinating stuff! Thanks again for sharing!
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Hi Katie, after posting my initial comment I read more of the other comments and it really sounds to me as if you may be histamine intolerant. I’m gluten free for a year now and improved a lot, but I still battled from time to time with various seemingly non-related symptoms until I realised that I was histamine intolerant. All the dots connected. You are more than welcome to contact me if you wish to discuss this.
Thanks bongaan! I looked back through the comments and see that I used to think I had an issue with fructose which is listed as something to avoid on the histamine-restricted diet (or rather fruit is), but now I’m not so sure. I do get the rash on my neck if I eat onions, but don’t seem to have a problem with fruit anymore. But I also still need to order the parasite/candida/bacterial overgrowth test. I will try an elimination diet of the histamine foods and continue to leave out gluten which isn’t listed on the foods to avoid and see what happens. I always love a good experiment on my body!!! Also, are you familiar with any tests I can order to check about histamine intolerance? Thanks again and I might reach out to you as I learn more.
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Hi Katie,
Wow! I am constantly amazed by how differently gluten intolerance presents in people!
After the birth of my third baby 16 years ago, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Disease and have been on Synthroid ever since. Until now, I had never considered gluten to be a problem for me; however, the evidence appears overwhelming that I must have an issue. Starting now I will be meticulous about gluten and cross-contamination. Do you have any idea what I can expect in regards to my Hashimoto’s? I mean, after all these years, can I be “cured”? Can I expect my necessary dosage of Synthroid to decrease? Who (what kind of medical professional) would you recommend I follow up with? (I live in CA)
Thank you so much for any assistance and suggestions you can offer, and thank you for sharing your story and knowledge!
Hi CMGirl, gluten is fascinating isn’t it! I strongly believe that anybody that has Hashimoto’s or antibodies to their thyroid should avoid gluten strictly. It is not worth the risk. I definitely suggest getting tested both for celiac disease (antibodies to tissue transglutaminase) and gluten intolerance (antibodies to gliadin) and even if the tests are negative, I still suggest removing gluten.
I mentioned this in a previous comment… I have yet to have a hypothyroid client (let alone a Hashimotos client) that doesn’t also have gluten intolerance. Many studies have found gluten intolerance and Hashimotos are connected (http://www.eje-online.org/content/130/2/137.abstract, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15244201, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12919165, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11768252, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614). This research shows the connection to be so common and strong that I believe that all patients that have antibodies to their own thyroid should be gluten free and everyone that is gluten intolerant would do well to test for thyroid antibodies. The reason that Hashimotos and gluten intolerance are connected is silly really! Gliadin (part of gluten) is molecularly very similar to the thyroid. This means that when someone who is gluten intolerant (thereby producing antibodies to gluten) consumes gluten (or gets cross-contamination), their immune system becomes upregulated and starts attacking not only gluten, but also those things the body confuses as gluten which for some people includes their thyroid. What’s really scary is that studies have shown that this attack on the thyroid can last for up to 6 months (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872614) and someone who is gluten intolerant activates antibodies from consuming 1 gluten containing bite or significantly less (varies by person ) . This is what frustrates me so much in my practice…. Someone who “only cheats every once in a while with a bite here or there of a cookie or pizza” has just reactivated an immune attack on not only gluten but potentially body tissues as well (the digestive system with Celiacs, joints with rheumatoid arthritis and the thyroid with Hashimotos). Dr. Kenneth Fine’s research indicates that 80% of Americans are likely to have or develop gluten intolerance (https://www.enterolab.com/StaticPages/EarlyDiagnosis.aspx) and other research indicates that 90% of hypothyroid cases are autoimmune (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0950351X88800557). This, I believe, is strong enough evidence to indicate that nobody with hypothyroidism should consume gluten and is why (to the sometimes extreme frustration of my clients), I suggest they eliminate gluten from their diet if hypothyroid (and without question if Hashimotos).
Your dosage of Synthroid and how much your body can recover depends on how much tissue damage there was to your thyroid and how far progressed the Hashimotos is. There is no “cure” for an autoimmune condition. You can uncover what your triggers are to your immune system being upregulated and control for those triggers but the autoimmune condition itself never goes away. A person with Celiac Disease knows that their trigger is gluten (and may be other foods too if they cross-react to other foods) and can stop eating gluten but if they ever get cross-contaminated the attack on the digestive system returns. Same with Hashimoto’s. You can manage an autoimmune disease but not “control” it. You can uncover the triggers for immune upregulation with Hashimoto’s and avoid those triggers but down the road something else may result in inflammation that triggers the attack again. It is a constant learning process. Most common triggers for Hashimoto’s are gluten, iodine and insulin surges. Though for some people, dairy is a trigger and for some estrogen surges (definitely sounds like this is for you since you were diagnosed after a pregnancy), mercury and other environmental toxins are the culprit. You need to uncover what reinstates the attack for you. I suggest ordering the book, “Why Do I Still Have Thyroid Symptoms? When My Lab Tests are Normal. A revolutionary breakthrough in understanding Hashimoto’s Disease and hypothyroidism” by Datis Kharrazian. This book will help you understand the condition better and learn about possible triggers. So all of this is to say, I don’t know… It depends how much tissue damage you’ve had with whether you could get off Synthroid or decrease your dosage.
Another piece of the puzzle is that you need to have strong, good working digestion so that you can get the most out of your medication. If you are not absorbing foods well, then you also aren’t absorbing nutrient cofactors needed for your thyroid and you also aren’t absorbing your medication well which means you have to do more. Also proper digestion is needed to make thyroid hormones. Having good gut bacteria and a balanced gut ecology will help you produce thyroid hormones and support your immune system. 70% of our immune system is in our gut so digestion is critical to supporting an autoimmune condition. Gut inflammation often results in thyroid inflammation, which you need to especially avoid when autoimmune.
As for a practitioner. You are looking for someone with some experience with autoimmune conditions. It is possible to find natural or integrative endocrinologists that could cooperate with a nutritionist, chiropractor or naturopath to provide you the best support. If you are looking for someone local, the best thing to do would be to screen them by asking questions about what they would do for your condition, what they believe common triggers for Hashimoto’s are and what sort of dietary recommendations they have. If they just want to keep you on thyroid medication and not deal with the autoimmune component then pass. You need somebody willing to calm down the inflammation in your body and stop immune over-reactivity or else you could just develop a new autoimmune condition. Thyroid medication does not deal with the immune system so you need someone willing to support that. Ask questions. Don’t be afraid to grill your doctor!
If you have questions or want to chat about this, you are welcome to schedule a complimentary health strategy session with me and we can talk about options for you: http://www.nourishedhealth.com/strategy-session/
Good luck with everything!
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Great story , thank you for being a voice to gluten intolerant people and hope this article can educate people. I have gluten induced arthritis and it took me years of suffering to realize i was gluten intol since i tested negative for celiac. I also had chronic hives and had to take steroids. Aafter just one week gluten free ,i saw significant improvement on my hives and joint pain. I see a lot of criticism of people that choose to adapt a gluten free diet without being celiac in articles, as if we are fad following brainless people, so thank you for your article.
Priscila, Thanks so much for sharing your symptoms with gluten and I am in sooo much agreement with you! It is so frustrating to me that the gluten intolerant community doesn’t stand together and instead there is so much fighting between people with “no, my issue is more important than yours.” It absolutely drives me nuts and all of this discussion that only celiac disease matters is dangerous and is sending the wrong message to not only folks that are gluten intolerant but to those that support us. It drives me nuts when I am grilling a server at a restaurant about how something is prepared to make sure there is no cross-contamination when at some point they say “oh you are really sensitive… you must have celiac disease.” I feel like yelling at them, “no instead my body merely attacks my thyroid and possibly my brain if I get any amount of cross-contamination. It doesn’t attack my gut though, so I guess that’s okay, right!” But I don’t. I occasionally try to educate someone about how non-celiac gluten intolerance can be just as dangerous but other times I just give in and say “yes, I have celiac disease.” It frustrates me. Yes, celiac disease is awful but inflammation is awful too… Okay, I just got on my soap box with someone that already agrees with me… Not very useful!
It just drives me absolutely crazy and makes me so sad. We could be such a more powerful group if we stood together.
Anyway, thank you sooo much for sharing your symptoms of gluten intolerance and speaking up for those of us that don’t or may not have celiac disease. We will keep spreading the word and eventually folks will recognize that celiac disease is not the only problematic symptom of gluten intolerance.
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I believe I have something similar, but I don’t hallucinate, I just feel extremely disorganized thinking and stress. Your body converts gluten to glutamate, which is similar to MonoSodiumGlutamate, MSG. It causes inflammation in the brain and offsets multiple other neurotransmitters like dopamine. I’ve been feeling tired and haven’t been able to focus my thoughts for many years now. I’ve stopped eating gluten for a few days and have been taking b vitamins, taurine, and magnesium to help lower glutamate levels in my brain. I feel better after just a few days. Thanks for the post!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124641.htm
Fantastic! Thanks so much Cory for passing on the article. Very interesting! And I love that it is so recent. I’m really excited to look more into glutamate’s connection to neurological conditions. I luckily am on a low glutamate diet since I don’t consume grains or dairy. I can occasionally go to big on nuts and seeds, which are higher in glutamic acid, but lately have been minimally consuming them. I do consume a lot of coconut, but it seems as though that actually is protective against glutamine.
Interesting about the dopamine. I read a recent article in psychology today about night terrors, sleep walking and other sleep disorders that indicated “Nearly 45 percent of patients diagnosed with REM sleep behavior disorder go on to develop Parkinson’s disease and other conditions caused by a lack of dopamine in the brain, according to a study reported in The Lancet Neurology.” This really freaked me out! Here is the whole article: http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201212/dangerous-dreamers
So a few weeks ago I started taking a supplement that naturally supports an increase of dopamine in the brain with amino acids (DL-Phenylalanine, Beta-Phenylethylamine, N Acetyl L-Tyrosine, N Acetyl L-Cysteine) and nutrient cofactors. It has increased my motivation and concentration during the day which had decreased just in the last month, but has drastically upset my sleep and seems to be almost inducing night terror-like symptoms. Not the same as with gluten, but still disconcerting. These ones happen exactly 30 minutes after I fall asleep and are more like how the Pychology Today article defines night terrors than me hallucinating. I’ve waited some to see if it would go away, but not so much. Also problematic is the Dopamine Hypothesis of Schizophrenia that posits that the problem is an increased number of dopamine receptors and therefore some researchers indicate that dopamine receptor blockers are the best treatment for schizophrenia and increasing dopamine would worsen the situation. http://psychcentral.com/lib/2010/the-dopamine-connection-between-schizophrenia-and-creativity/
Hmm… You’ve given me more food for thought. Thank you. I still have so much to learn!
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This story is nothing less than ASTONISHING to me! I am a successful wife, mother and PhD in my early 60s and I had VERY similar symptoms all my life. The night hallucinations gradually faded (or perhaps I just got used to telling myself, “There’s nothing in the dark that wasn’t there when the light was on,”) but when my husband travels I STILL sleep with a night light on!!!
And the “brain fog” — tell me about it! Day after day after day….many days were like slogging through molasses. Since childhood I have had days that were so bad (I called them “buzzing head days”) that I could do nothing but lie down with my eyes closed.
I suppose they COULD have been symptoms of something else, but one day, literally out of the clear blue sky, I woke up and decided to stop eating gluten (and processed food, and sodas, and artificial sweeteners). I pretty much went 95% Paleo without having heard of Paleo (I have chickpeas etc. very occasionally – legumes are gluten free but not Paleo).
Anyway, every lifelong symptom is GONE (also muscle and joint aches, overall fatigue that the doc thought was fibromyalgia, etc).
Thank heavens you discovered this at your age and did not have to go through a long life with it.
Now, if only I could convince people that even though I do not have celiac disease, I am not “faking” or jumping on a GF bandwagon! I confess that I once thought other people WERE just “making it up” – that is, it was a psychological problem due to boredom or watching too much Oprah or something! Boy, is my face red!
Renata, thanks so much for sharing your experience with gluten and all of your symptoms. My night terrors are just from gluten but I am also now paleo though sometimes when I eat out or with friends I might end up eating gluten free grains or beans. Your story is so incredibly encouraging. I will definitely be sharing it with others, especially those with muscle and joint aches or that have been “diagnosed” with fibromyalgia. You so cracked me up about thinking people were faking it or jumping on the bandwagon until it healed you too! I’ve heard that from many people. And yes, like you it absolutely drives me nuts when people don’t take my dietary choices serious or think that if it isn’t celiac it isn’t serious. Ugh!!! Thanks again. I really, really appreciate your story, your inspiration and your support!
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I am actually AGREEING that the night terrors were from gluten – the only thing I meant about “there’s nothing there that wasn’t there when the light was on” is that I told myself that if I thought I “saw” something! So they “faded” in the sense of not bothering me any more than anything else did…but since stopping gluten they have stopped entirely!
Thanks again for your story – it was a huge help! I thought I was the only one with these weird night visions!
Renata, I understood that you were agreeing about gluten being the cause. It was bed time when I responded and so I may have come across as confused (but just sleepy)!
When I was a regular gluten eater and was getting night terrors nightly, I still had them, but I got used to them. I would wake-up, see someone, watch him or her for a minute and go back to sleep knowing that it wasn’t real. That I think is a little scary because it’s hard to know what is real and what isn’t. I wonder if I had never figured out it was gluten if they would have gone away for me eventually too.
Yesterday I had a meeting at a restaurant and didn’t eat any of the food as I don’t trust the restaurant, but I did get limes in my water and I did start biting my nails from feeling stress for a bunch of stuff I need to get done. And I did get glutened! I can’t believe that I still make mistakes like that but I do! I woke up last night to a man in my room spraying something (yeah weird!). I watched him, wondering if he knew I was there or not and wishing I hadn’t slept without my sweats knowing that I was going to have to fight him without pants. Scared and shaking, wondering how to begin. And then he dissolved. So frustrating.
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